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Dec
7

Ace of Diamonds for 2k please

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Ya gotta love degens... ya just got to...

Last night I went to the Commerce and was having a grand old time playing some cards when a funny thing happened.  The set up was this.  With 15k and Ah3h I min raised to 40 utg+3 in a 10 20 game.  Got 2 callers when the Button (4,500) made it 540 to go.  It seemed fishy.  At this point I made a bad read (he had kings) and put him on a steal.  He was smart, young, and I don't know... for some reason I just didn't believe him.  I decided to call out of position with my Ah3h and planned on chk raising his inevitable sure c-bet and win the hand by re-stealing his steal.  (By the way, this is exactly how to build one of those dangerous stupid holes I sometimes talk about..... fwiw).  I met him later by the way.  The fella with Kings is Lee.

Anyway, the flop comes Ad 5d 4h.  (And being the genius I am thought for a second that I had Ah5h for two pair.  But luckily I have the habit of always dbl chking my hands.  I notice that I have Ah3h.  Now that I have connected I decide to just chk call.  He bets 1200, I call.  The turn is the Qd, I check, he checks.. the river is a blank.  We both check and I win the hand.  Whatever.  Wow, I played like a donk, made a horrible read, won the pot and got off scott free.

After the hand ended the player to my left (unnamed to protect the innocent) asked me if he thought he should have called the additional 500 with the Ad Jd.  And being the space cadet that I am I forgot to tell him that the Ad was on the flop.  By the time I remembered this, the table banter had moved on and the hand was forgotten.  An hour later this same player pondered out loud - wishing he had called the 500 with his AdJd.  And now at this late juncture I decided I would correct him.  When I did, the story began.  

And here is where the story starts.

He was so confident that the card was the Ac that he offered a bet.  My Ad to his Ac for 500.  Also the loser will pay the floor man a 100 toke (the floor guy will have to go thru the bs to talk to whoever in the video room).  While the floor is off trying to get the suit of the ace Lee (kings) volunteers that he still remembered the flop and agrees with me as well.  Bayes theorem kicks in.  Confidence being stronger now I offer a larger bet.  I endup paying him 500 to have the honor of a 2000 bet.  (or 2500 to 1500) - 60 40 when I think I am hovering at about 90%.  Not a bad bet!  Then the buzz kill.  The floor's reply was that wanting to know the flop - bet or not - is not enough to warrant a tape check.  Arghghg.  I feel like I have had money just slip thru my fingers.  Arghghghg.

So now the Ac guy tells the floor, that we don't really need to know the suit, but were only oddly curious about that.  He continues, that the real issue was about a 1000 dollar chip.  That we can't figure out who it belongs to and that it was during this hand where the confusion came it... "was the chip mine or phil's, he asks".  This is of course all a load of malarky, but he ships it all onto the floor guy as mr ace of clubs is pointedly deteremined.  Well, he can't seem to get this camera thing rolling, when next he calls David Mosikian!!!

David is one of the massive King Pins of the Commerce Poker room, he is at home trying to have some time off, when one of his customers (not me....I think this is all mad and have given up on the bet a while ago)  is calling him AT HOME and trying to get him to make some calls and get them to rewind to about 2 hrs ago and look at this flop.  Next thing I know the phone is being handed to me and I am on the phone with David.  Of course I apologize to David and assure him that we are all fine.

Anyway, I was just astonished at how tenacious this player was found the whole thing hilarious.  Only a fellow degen would go to such extremes to try and resolve a bet.  It would have made for some real entertainment had the video gods somehow loosened up at the last moment.  If he was given the truth about the suit of that ace.  (Assuming it was the Ad as Lee and I suspected it was.) 

He tried so hard working all the way up the power ladder only to be saved by the beuracratic slog that is the video room.

If there is a moral it might be this.  Sometimes beuracracy can save a man from his ownself.

Anyway...

Later

Phil

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